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   Why Should I Buy My PRS

From Ed Roman?

Even though Ed Roman is no longer personally a fan of what PRS is doing these days. Ed still sells quite a few of them. The simple reason being, on the new models Ed has the best price. At Christmas 2003 the Las Vegas store sold over 75 PRS guitars in the local area alone. Beating out Guitar Center's prices is easy and of course the selection is much bigger. As of this updating 12/05 Ed has 82 PRS guitars in stock Including, Dragons, Artists, Customs, Signatures, Classics and many one of a kind special pieces.

Message From Ed

 

Buying a PRS today is no easy thing to do. There are way too many models, and not all options are available on all of them. I can give you a either a quickie thumbnail overview, of all the models, or I can give you an extremely detailed synopsis on every model ever offered by PRS.

I have been selling PRS guitars since 1978,  Long before anyone knew who Paul Reed Smith was. I am unique in that I recommended Paul as the best guitar made years before he achieved his reputation. True I no longer feel that the PRS product is as good a value as it used to be, and it is also true that I no longer feel that the PRS product is the best I have to offer. But PRS guitars are still a well made guitar. I still outsell most dealers on them.

However if you want to buy a PRS, and you are interested in the pros and cons. I can be of immense help to you. I am an expert on his original models, I can tell you which years models were made with certain components and woods. I can be of value to you because I know all the original real PRS models intimately. I can advise you on the differences between a McCarty and a Custom, I can tell you which ones are keepers and which ones to stay away from.  I have been called a walking encyclopedia on PRS guitars.

I can tell you the year he switched from Brazilian Rosewood to Indian Rosewood, I can tell you the reasons behind the Heel from Hell, I can advise you on what pickups to choose, and I can tell you all the different bridge configurations over the years and advise you on the ones that work the best etc etc.

RARE MODELS

I have in stock many first year PRS guitars. I also have pre-productions and prototypes. I even have one of the very very rare acoustic flat tops that were made in 1991 (Only 11 made).

PRICE

I also have the absolute lowest prices on all the 2004 PRS guitars. If another dealer beats my price on the same PRS guitar I will pay you double the difference.

SELECTION

I have probably one of the best selections of pre 1995 PRS guitars in the world. I also have some of the most unique PRS guitars that you will find anywhere.

SERVICE

I am also unique in the fact that I can offer custom retops, Inlays, and colors that are available no where else in the world. I guarantee there is not a PRS in the world that I can't fix if something goes wrong with it.

PARTS

I am the only guitar merchant in the world that carries PRS original parts. I have original necks, bodies, tremolos, tuners, and over 250 PRS pickups in stock. I even have those hard to get original sweet switches, 5 way biscuit rotary knobs, Mil Com Tremolos, and more. My shop is the only shop in the world to my knowledge that has upgrade aftermarket replacement necks and upgraded custom made bodies.

SETUP

Every guitar I sell gets a complete and thorough setup and check out before it is shipped. This is signed off on by Rod Miller or Alan Dreher (Shop Managers)

 

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PRS Serial # 75

All stock, dead mint condition.

This paint scheme is totally original and very few were done. The Guitar is in excellent condition and is probably the finest sounding PRS I have ever played.  Guitar is on Consignment and the customer is asking top dollar. Please make offers and I will take them to him. I personally offered 8,000,00 and he turned it down flat.  So it would be a good idea to go higher than that.

Ed Roman

This Paint Scheme is Available on Quicksilver Guitars

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PRS Dragon II #79 - Stock, Mint Condition

Original PRS Dragon. The inlay on this instrument is really something special: click on the link above to check it out. It's difficult to get an RGB image at 72 dpi to convey the color tonality and complexity of this inlay, but the linked photo is as good as I could get.

Brett

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Hey Ed,

Your web site is without a doubt the best guitar site on the www.  There is lots of great factual info. As the owner of a 1986 PRS custom I found your comparisons very interesting. It's very hard to disagree with any of it.

Several months ago I read your comments on Tom Anderson guitars (they are very overpriced) and was instantly won over to your way of thinking.

As someone who occasionally attempts to build guitars (in my garage) I agree that 'hand built' means something different today.

Keep up the good work and fight the good fight.

Ken

PS

I will be taking seminars in Las Vegas soon. I'll stop by and pickup a Quicksilver for my collection


The other problem with this guitar is the finish. PRS applies a thick almost dipped looking Polyurethane finish to the entire guitar. This gives the guitar that beautiful finish that PRS is so famous for. I use the same finish on my Pearlcasters, LSR’s and Abstract Guitars. As of this writing I make Nitrocellulose a $100.00 option.

Nitrocellulose is not necessarily the end all on a solid body guitar. But on the archtop and Hollow Body II there is no excuse for not using a nitro finish.

Nitrocellulose is about ¼ as thick as PRS finishes and about 1/16th thick as McNaugt finishes which are now so thick even a non trained ear can distinguish the tonal difference.

Remember thin is desirable when it comes to finishes. The finish on a Stradavari violin was immeasurably thin.


PRS Hollowbody Archtop Guitars

The McCarty Hollow Body

The McCarty Hollow body 1 model is the least expensive of the models. It comes with a Maple top and Mahogany back and sides. This model sports a manufacturers list price of  $3,600.00. (Street price will probably be under $2,700.00) , I measured the thickness at the rim  at 1 3/4"  and at the top of the peak of the arch 3".  There are no birds, gold or fancy quilted  maple (of course these items as on most PRS guitars are optional for an extra cost of about $2,000.00 additional. Personally I like the thicker version much much better than the thinner version. The Thinner version is by far overpriced. The Thicker full Archtop version is only about $100.00 more but it offers a host of reasons why it is better. (More on that later).

The McCarty Hollow Body II

The McCarty Hollow body II differs slightly from the basic model by the use of Maple on the back instead of Mahogany.  I found it a little strange that PRS opted to use Mahogany on the sides instead of Maple. I don't think it was a design mistake, but maybe a marketing mistake because it might alienate some cosmetic conscious buyers away from the model.  It is much cheaper for PRS to build the sides from Mahogany simply because the sides are hogged out on a machine the way a canoe is built. Personally I feel that Maple or Rosewood would be a much better choice.


The McCarty Archtop

This is the larger body version of the "Hollow body" it is exactly one inch thicker at the edge and one inch thicker at the peak of the arch and only $200.00 more.  Although In real life it will cost you about $100.00.

This is my favorite guitar that PRS makes today. It has absolutely no competition. (The thinner one is ridiculously overpriced because there are numerous other better and cheaper products.) The Archtop is a guitar unto itself. No other manufacturer makes a guitar quite like this one.  I like the way it plays and I like the way it sounds. The Archtop also tends to have nicer looking top wood than the thinner Hollow Body  model.

The Archtop guitar is also a  lot louder than the Hollow Body and therefore the guitar is a wonderful bedroom or parlor guitar also.

I absolutely do not recommend the LR Baggs Piezo system that is available for these guitars. There is a much newer technology now.

Buyer Beware

I suspect the street price will reflect a larger increase in price due to consumer misunderstanding.  There is a ridiculous notion out among the uninformed consumer types that "Jazz boxes have to be expensive to be good".  Many dealers and manufacturers know that if they mark something at a fair price that the uninformed consumers will think there is something wrong with it simply because the price is low.  Consequently there is a whole cottage industry of archtop builders that are unfairly commanding huge sums of money for their wares.  (I will take the PRS over those Idiots any day).  Not that the PRS is low priced but I think that if you buy the lower priced models they are not a bad deal.  Heritage is probably the absolute best bang for the buck.  They come in at less than half of a PRS and they are full Jazz Boxes in the traditional sense.  D'Angelico's are available again and they are priced at approximate 3,000.00

 


Now for Something Completely Different
As I previously stated I dislike the PRS Hollow body because 
there are numerous competitors who do versions of that model better and much cheaper and without the PRS feedback problems.

As I previously stated I like the Archtop (Thicker Version) much better because
it has no competitors and does things that no other guitars are capable of. Yes it is overpriced but that's just PRS.

But the Artist version of this guitar is probably the most stupidly overpriced thing I have ever seen.

McCarty Archtop II Artist Model
 List Price $10,000.00  Smackers,  Puhleease!!!!!!!
This price is $4,660.00 more than a loaded McCarty Archtop II !!!
I took this from PRS's 1998 Specification Sheet
If I missed something so did they


Here's what the 5 differences are:
 

 Brazilian Rosewood Fingerboard
Artist Grade Figured Maple
Gold Outline on the Bird inlays
Rosewood Veneer on Headstock
Double Stain Finish

 

Here's my assessment of the 5 differences 02/27/98
 

1. Brazilian Rosewood fingerboard

I am selling solid Brazilian Rosewood complete neck blanks for 125.00 just like PRS used on the $9,000.00 Rosewood Ltd. I am buying these blanks from Craft Supplies in England which I understand is the same supplier that sells PRS.  That's the whole neck!!!  How much could just the fingerboard cost???   My highest guess is about $15.00 cost

2. Artist Grade Figured Maple

How could that be better than a 10 top. I thought that a 10 top was measured on a scale of 10.
I quote one of the greatest guitarists alive,  Nigel Tufnel of Spinal Tap: " ...But these amps go to eleven."
Just for the heck of it lets say it's an 11 top. OK add $75.00 at the absolute absolute  most.

3. Gold Outline on Bird Inlays

OK here we have a slightly noticeable difference, I honestly have no clue what it costs to do this. I would guess about $25.00 to $40.00  but because I simply don't know I'm gonna allow $100.00 for the purpose of this comparison.

4. Rosewood Veneer on Headstock

This is something I do on most of the guitars I build, I use scrap rosewood, ebony or quilted maple and I generally don't even charge for it unless I have quoted too low on another component and I need to make it up.  The most I ever charged for this was $50.00 and as I mentioned it really costs nothing to do. Many companies do it Standard and off-hand I can't think of anyone who charges for it.  But for the sake of this commentary I have to assign a value so I'm gonna give 'em $15.00.

5. Double Stain Finish

The People at PRS are true geniuses at guitar finishing. Not only do their finishes look fantastic but in my opinion most of the other people in the industry including myself have learned a lot of our techniques directly from Paul Reed Smith's finishing.  Some people learned it from working there and some people like myself learned it by trial and error until it looked as good as theirs, but the bottom line is PRS was the first company to popularize the double stain finish. Basically a double stained finish is where the first stain usually a darker stain is applied. This serves to raise the grain and enhance the 3D effect of the final product.  The darker stain is sanded down so that it highlights the edges of the flame or quilt. Then the color stain or dye is applied. The end result is truly spectacular. I think that in the early days PRS used this technique on many of their regular models. The retail cost of doing this from my paint shop is $100.00. Again for the purpose of this article I am going to allow a $50.00 cost which is worth it.  However many of PRS's stock colors employ the same method for no extra cost. You just have to know which colors to order.  (The ones on this page prove it)

 

Let's Do The Math.
OK,  Lets add up the 5 numbers in blue. I get a total of $255.00
 We have now established the absolute highest possible cost figure, now let's put a retail value on it.
How about marking it up..  say 4 times?  That's pretty fair!!  Whatta' ya' think?

OK were gonna' take that $255.00 and make it  $1,020.00
Alrighty, lets get down to business here.

OK, the difference was $4,660.00 between the Artist,  and the loaded Archtop.
Were Gonna Subtract $1,020.00 for the Artist special appointments
Shit that still leaves an unexplained  $3,640.00

$3,640.00 !!!!
Hello???? (knock  knock)  McFly???     Helloooooo???

Could this guitar be for that uninformed consumer, that I talked about above???? 
You remember the one who thinks that it has to be expensive to be good!!!

 

Final commentary and opinion

Seriously, The PRS Archtop models are excellent instruments. They are absolutely the best thing I have seen come out of PRS for 5 years. I am giving them my highest rating for quality, I just can't endorse the Artist model as a fair value.  (I like the full body model much more than the thin body model)

If you are the sensible sort and aren't impressed by "Brand Names"

(That separates you from the crowd).

You might also look at the guitars available from "Heritage".  These are probably the best bang for the buck of any hand built archtop guitar in the world. Currently there is a trend towards "Brand Name" snobbery among archtop guitar circles. I think that Heritage is completely oblivious to this trend and therefore I strongly recommend them.

 


 PRS Real Time Inventory

Ed Roman Guitars founded in 1995 with only one original objective

Company Trivia

In 1995 I became totally disillusioned with the PRS guitars. For years I had felt that PRS guitars  were the best guitars on the market.. So I decided to start a company that specialized entirely in Pre 1995 Paul Reed Smith Guitars.

After owning "Eastcoast Music Mall" and being in business for 23 years,  selling Guitars, Keyboards, PA, Lighting, Drums and other assorted hogwash, I was tired of selling Fenders and Ibanez guitars. I felt that the guitar industry was ready for someone who only sold top shelf high end guitars.  The main problem at the time was there were all to few builders who actually were building really great guitars.  (Today that's all been changed)

Of course Ed Roman Guitars has since blossomed to specialize in carrying over 20 brands of  high end boutique guitars and 250 plus brands of regular brand name Guitars and Basses. Ed Roman Guitars also builds some of the finest guitars on the market today.

 But the original concept was to carry only pre 1995 hand made PRS guitars. I also sell the newer machine made ones but that of course is for economic reasons. Today I am glad to say the high end guitar market is growing extremely well and there are no shortages of better than PRS brands that can be bought at a reasonable price.

Ed Roman

 


 

Here's a totally unforgivable job done on a PRS

The guitar appeared to have the original finish on it

The customer wanted us to change the color.

 

When we sanded the body down we found that a huge chunk of the body was solid bondo.

It's a little hard to see but if you look closely you will see the buildup of 1 1/2 " of solid body filler on this guitar

I find it hard to believe that any company, much less PRS would ever allow this to happen

But that's what it looked like.

When we contacted the customer he told us he had bought the guitar on Ebay

Ebay Strikes Again !!!



 
These Photos From The PRS Factory
You are looking at a CNC machine

Computer Numerically Controlled

 

All of the delicate cutting operations are done by $85,000.00 machine. All of the shaping, sanding, binding & fitting is robotically accomplished. There are no human hands, no human eyes to line up the wood perfectly so that imperfections in the wood fall into locations that won't be seen later.

There is nothing illegal about building a guitar with a machine.  I feel, it's totally unethical and immoral to charge the extremely high hand made prices. just because you made your original reputation by building handmade guitars.

Most every large company is guilty of this, I can think of very few large companies who still actually handbuild their guitars.

BC Rich USA,  Jackson Custom Shop, & maybe the PRS private stock guitars are semi hand built. These are all I can think of, off the top of my head.  I repeat, There is nothing wrong with CNC made guitars except that they are usually overpriced and under built. They generally lack a certain vibe, soul or character that can only be achieved from a hand built guitar. Not everyone can necessarily benefit from these detailed characteristics, So that's why a custom made hand built guitar isn't for everyone.  I always recommend a mid priced machine made Fender, Jackson, Dean, OLP, Hamer, or  Ibanez for a beginner or for the working musician who needs a good low cost guitar.  A custom made guitar is not for everyone. When and if, you finally decide to get a custom made instrument, you cross the threshold between good & great. Today a machine made guitar is considered a tool and a handmade one is potentially an heirloom or an investment guitar.

The worst offenders that I can think of is ESP, Lakland, Gibson & Taylor.  Many people assume that these companies are hand building.  The ESP guitars are totally machine made in Asia and priced incredibly high. The Lakland guitars offer a USA made and an Asian made model, Both are so unbelievably overpriced that It should be a crime. Gibson guitars are well known for being overpriced by everyone, I feel that their machine made guitars are overpriced so much that even if they were handmade they are still incredibly overpriced.  In the case of Taylor, they are also machine made and if you pay attention to their ridiculous image based advertising campaign you might think they were handmade.   NOT!!!!!!

PRS on the other hand has publicly stated that they are %100 machine made. (Kudos For Honesty) Up until a couple of years ago they actually used to be proud of it, They even boasted about it. Today the consumer isn't as stupid as they used to be, thanks to people who print these little exposé's on their websites. Today PRS doesn't call too much attention to it and in their last catalog they show numerous photos of craftsmen actually carving guitars. I presume those guitars are their private stock models, I know they are not the models you will see when you walk into a big box store or corporate superstore.

Tom Anderson says he builds three guitars a day, that may be %100 true. Or is this just a clever way to possibly make the consumer think they are handmade. Because Tom has CNC machinery and if he wanted to he could produce many more guitars a day.

This whole article was prompted by a customer who attempted to trade in a plain black blah looking Sadowsky NYC Bass earlier today. 
I offered the customer what I considered to be a very generous trade in, I actually offered him way too much by my standard, $2,000.00 because I had heard that these basses were pretty good.

When he told me he wanted $3,500.00 for the bass I was appalled. This instrument is made from parts & constructed almost exactly like a Fender. The customer went on to tell me that the electronics were amazing. I played the bass, I had to agree the electronics were great. However I know that once an electronic circuit is designed you can copy it exactly for less than $10.00 each. I also like the way the bass played & felt. I just could not wrap myself around the price.

I did about 15 minutes of research and I was able to determine who builds the bodies, necks, bridge, tuners & pickups.  My own production made machine made low end "Lowrider" model bass can be bought brand new for about $2,700.00 cheaper. Coincidentally the components are all exactly the same.  (With exception of his proprietary electronic circuit)

Now I'm nor claiming my bass is better, I'm not claiming anything. I'm just trying to make a point about overpricing.... (You No Longer Get What You Pay For !!! & That's A Cold Hard Fact)

We have in our inventory  at least 2 Fender Basses with Sadowsky's $250.00 electronics built in should we charge $250.00 more or should we charge $2,500.00 more  (Think about it)

Ed Roman

 

 More Deprogramming From Ed Roman
Please read what I have written below with an open mind 

 

There Are 2 Major Cliché's That Are No Longer True In The Guitar Business

1,  You Get What You Pay For!!!!

It's painfully obvious to me or to anyone who is not intellectually challenged, today many large corporations, use this tired old cliché to their financial advantage. They are constantly pricing guitars at extremely high prices, so that consumers will think they are actually handmade well built instruments.

I first learned this fact back in 1991, I was employed by Gibson Guitars. The president of Gibson, Henry Juszkiewicz made this statement to me. "The higher the price the better the guitar" "or at least that will be the customers perception". 

This may have backfired a little on him, due to the fact that this artificial perception, that a production made guitar has to be so expensive, has made it possible for custom builders like, Myself, JET, Gledura, Jaros, Benedetto, McPherson, Dingwall, & Alembic to flourish. Simply because most intelligent people, would rather have a custom guitar. Especially if they could buy it for the same price or less than a machine made production instrument.

2,  It's Just Too Good To Be True!!!!

That's another Bulls&%t Cliché, The Man & all the large corporations want to instill in your mind.  (Don't you believe that for even one second !!!!!!!!)

A tribe isn't a tribe unless it has one Chief & many Indians. 

The Chief is nothing without Indians!!

The question you must ask yourself your whole life is "Am I A Chief,  Or Am I An Indian"

The Indian will believe the old "It's too good to be true" adage and go back to smoking his peace pipe. The Chief will just go for it  There lies the inherent difference.

Some people play original music, They are known as innovators, Some people play only cover tunes, In Vegas they are known as Lounge Bands.

Now that doesn't make these people bad people, But it doesn't make them Chief's either !!!!

Hell, I like to play cover music myself, I do it for fun !!!

Ed Roman

06/17/05

 

 

Monkey See Monkey Do

The monkey will play the same guitar as all the other monkeys will

 

 


I quote P.T. Barnum
"There's a Sucker Born Every Minute!!"



 


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